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 07-19-2006, 19:32 Post: 132409
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 another e-bay scam

So what are you going to do? First thing I'd do is contact e-bay and second contact the US Postal Inspector--Internet Fraud Division in Detroit (seriously!) and file a complaint and put these ass---- behind bars.






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 07-20-2006, 17:03 Post: 132435
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bota: How did you happen to find them on e-bay? And do you plan on reporting this to the USPS? This a very serious thing to let slide.






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 07-20-2006, 17:08 Post: 132436
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Bota: As of 5pm CST e-Bay has taken it off.






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 07-22-2006, 11:26 Post: 132511
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Jason: pictures, ideas, etc. are not inherently copyright. A copyright is something you have to apply for and pay for, and is only inforceable in the country in which it was filed in. If the pictures, ideas, etc. are not copyrighted and in the publice domain (eg. the net, in print), they are "public domain" meaning anyone can use them without gaining your permission. Patents and design patents fall into this category. You are right though that e-Bay has no financial interest in reducing theft other than bad PR---until someone else comes out with a similar auction service, they'll have no motivation to change. But by no means should they be sued since they cannot determine nor should they where photos come from. Bottom line: It's unfortunate thives will stoop to stealing pictures (copyrighted or not) but if you don't want them stolen or lifted, it's up to you to do "due diligence".






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 07-22-2006, 12:12 Post: 132515
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Jason: That may be what the gov. site says but it's overly simplistic. And from my experience just not accurate---after all it stands to reason that if something is inherently copyrighted than why would you have to get copyright protection? As far as the John Deere logo, that's a whole different area of Law---that gets into trademarks, design patents, and such.

Public domain. Lets say your invention of that side winder mower you made, you wanted to patent. Guess what? You can't because you have showed the public (on the net here) this idea and it is now part of the public domain and has legally been disclosed. You can't susally patent something that has been publically disclosed. Years ago when I was designing things for an eventual patent, I had companies/individuals sign a confidential discloure agreement to prevent anyone from dislosing my ideas to anyone else. But the law and the agreement doesn't prevent them from looking at it and changing it and getting their own patent. The first things a good patent atty. will ask you "How long have had the idea? And how many people have seen it?"






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